This week I chatted again with Emily Sigrist on the Queer and Now Podcast. This time we chatted about my shifting perspective on the concept of passing, religious-normative culture, and the lack of critical thinking in our education system. TW/CW: There are some mentions of sexual abuse in this episode.
PRODUCER’S NOTE: Sarah and I have been talking for quite awhile, and in this particular conversation, our musings on our respective identities remain pretty personal and subjective. On the one hand, it created a conversation that could center around Sarah, and myself, where we could share what our experiences are like with each other and how we’ve made meaning out of them in our own personal lives. However, on the other hand, when I play this one back, I recognize that I didn’t do a good enough job calling to attention our respective privileges that have lead to our subjective thoughts, particularly on passing. I am cis and Sarah is transgender, and as a result, our experiences and our privileges and safety experiences are and will continue to be very different. In addition, Sarah and I are both white, we’re both able bodied, and as we talk about in this episode, we both had a comparatively “easy go” as Sarah says, when it comes to our safety and our identities. And although we do both mention this this in this episode, I want to be clear that we can hold these opinions about passing BECAUSE our safety hasn’t been threatened. If we had different races, colors, nation originals, documentation status, abilities, economic statuses, employment statuses, or found ourselves without our other layers of privilege, it would be a different story. With all of that said, I want to sincerely apologize for not making a greater point of acknowledging that during this conversation. For a lot of people, being able to quote on quote pass as cis or straight is a matter of life and death, and I would NEVER want to miss the mark on that, and in this conversation, I feel like I did. I really am sorry. I’ll continue to work to do better. With that said, I am always looking to have more voices, identities, and perspectives on the show, so do not hesitate to reach out to me via Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter with your experiences and stories or to hear your own voice on the show. Thanks so much for listening. -Emily Sigrist
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